July 30, 2009 at 4:35 pm (Adverse Effects, Anticonvulsants, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: Anticonvulsants, Lamictal, Lamictal withdrawal, lamotrigine, lamotrigine withdrawal, med withdrawal, medication, medication withdrawal, meds, psychotropic, psychotropics
I’m at half the starting dose now. This means my body still has trace amounts of the drug but it’s so low that it’s not really effective. Here are the side effects I’ve been experiencing:
- Major brain fog
- Dizzy spells
- Lethargy (ie, no energy)
I’m also having trouble losing weight but I can’t say for sure if that’s attributable to the medication. If you were on Lamictal or are on Lamictal, what side effects have you experienced?
March 6, 2009 at 11:28 am (Adverse Effects, Blogs, Medicine/Meds, Suicide)
Tags: Adverse Effects, Effexor, Lamictal, lamotrigine, side effects, suicidal ideation, suicidal thoughts, Suicide, withdrawal, withdrawal symptoms
This is a great post from Ana on how she struggled with suicidal thoughts while tapering off of Effexor. She was a lot better about identifying this stuff than I’ve ever been. I’m linking to this because I want people to know that suicidal thoughts CAN be drug-induced. I’m well aware of that now coming off of Lamictal. No problems so far but I have struggled with it in the past when I tried to jump down from 200 mg to 150 mg.
February 16, 2009 at 11:30 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Pharma)
Tags: acceptability, Adverse Effects, antidepressant rankings, Antidepressants, buproprion, celexa, citalopram, cognitive functioning, Cymbalta, Depression, drugs, duloxetine, effectiveness, Effexor, efficacy, escitalopram, Fluoxetine, fluvoxamine, irritability, Lexapro, luvox, medications, meds, milnacipran, mirtazapine, paroxetine, Paxil, primary care doctors, primary care physicians, Prozac, psych drugs, psych meds, psychiatry, psychotropics, rage, reboxetine, remeron, savella, Seroxat, sertraline, side effects, somnolence, Traci Johnson, venlafazine, vestra, violence, Wellbutrin, withdrawal, withdrawal effects, withdrawal symptoms, zoloft
A number of antidepressants were recently ranked in different surveys:
Zoloft and Lexapro came in first for a combination of effectiveness and fewer side effects, followed by Prozac (fluoxetine), Paxil (paroxetine), Cymbalta, and Luvox among others.
The first was efficacy — or how likely patients were to experience the desired effects of the drug.
1. Remeron (Mirtazapine)
2. Lexapro (Escitalopram)
3. Effexor (Venlafaxine)
4. Zoloft (Sertraline)
5. Celexa (Citalopram)
6. Wellbutrin (Buproprion)
7. Paxil (Paroxetine)
8. Savella (Milnacipran)
9. Prozac (Fluoxetine)
10. Cymbalta (Duloxetine)
11. Luvox (Fluvoxamine)
12. Vestra (Reboxetine)
The second was acceptability — the likelihood that a patient would continue using a drug for the duration of the study (it is generally assumed that a high ratio of patients dropping out indicates the presence of undesirable side effects for a drug).
1. Zoloft (Sertraline)
2. Lexapro (Escitalopram)
3. Wellbutrin (Buproprion)
4. Celexa (Citalopram)
5. Prozac (Fluoxetine)
6. Savella (Milnacipran)
7. Remeron (Mirtazapine)
8. Effexor (Venlafaxine)
9. Paxil (Paroxetine)
10. Cymbalta (Duloxetine)
11. Luvox (Fluvoxamine)
12. Vestra (Reboxetine)
My experience with Lexapro was a disaster and I’ve written about Zoloft’s connection with irritability and rage. Paxil’s side effects are especially rough (see Bob Fiddaman’s Seroxat page) while Effexor’s withdrawal effects proved to be significantly challgenging. Although Prozac offset Effexor’s withdrawal symptoms, it causes severe somnolence that can impair cognitive functioning. And last but not least, Cymbalta contributed to the unfortunate death of Traci Johnson who had no history of depression.
These drugs may be effective for many people but it’s still a guessing game. Dr. Mark I. Levy, quoted in ABC News’s article on the rankings, mentioned that while psychiatrists may not have much use for the rankings, he sees them as beneficial for primary care physicians. And Dr. Harold G. Koenig, a professor at Duke University Medical Center, adds:
“I would be likely to start patients on either Zoloft [because it’s cheaper] or Lexapro … Unfortunately, that is almost none of my patients. By the time they get to me [a psychiatrist], the primary-care doctors have tried Zoloft and other antidepressants, so my patient are not the “new to medication” kind of patients,” he said.
I won’t rehash my thoughts on PCPs prescribing antidepressants and other psych meds. You can read about them here.
August 5, 2008 at 11:34 am (Adverse Effects, Anticonvulsants, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Personal)
Tags: bipolar, Bipolar Disorder, cost, drugs, generic, generic equivalent, GlaxoSmithKline, GSK, health insurance, insurance, Lamictal, lamotrigine, medication, meds, money, pharmaceuticals, psych drugs, psych meds, psychotropic, Teva Pharmaceuticals
So much for Miss Up-on-Pharmaceuticals.
I’ve been paying so much attention to Pristiq that the very medication I take slipped out from right under my nose.
How did I find this out? It hit me where it hurt.
In the pockets, of course.
I went to CVS yesterday night for my Lamictal refill. Since I’ve been under my husband’s plan, we’ve been paying about $40 for the medication. So I nearly doubled over when the pharmacy cashier said $54.
I was in a bit of a foul mood about money anyway so the last thing I wanted to do was argue about the cost of my prescription that had jumped up by $14. (Which, in retrospect, I probably should have done because I could have saved $49 right there.)
I came home and made my husband’s day go from bad to worse. He flipped out and got on the phone with his insurance immediately. He said that the max he should pay on any medication is $50 so why was he paying $54 and why the cost rose so sharply.
“Well, sir, it’s because Lamictal has now gone generic and you’re paying the difference between the cost of the medication and the cost of the generic.”
Bob gets off the phone and goes straight to Google News to find out when Lamictal went generic.
According to MarketWatch.com, Teva Pharmaceuticals commenced shipment of lamotrigine tablets on July 22nd. So instead of either the pharmacist asking me if I wanted a generic version or the insurance company letting us know a generic version would be available (it would have saved them money), we ended up paying $49 more than necessary. It appears that Teva’s generic is AB-rated, which means that it has similar strength, bioequivalence, and efficacy. Overall, it likely shouldn’t be a problem if I go from Lamictal to lamotrigine. At least I hope not. We’ll see.
Mood rating: 5
July 28, 2008 at 5:32 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Pharma)
Tags: Adverse Effects, antidepressant, Antidepressants, Daniel Carlat, Depression, desvenlafaxine, drug, Effexor, Effexor XR, estrogen therapy, generic, hormone therapy, hormones, hot falshes, medication, meds, menopausal, menopause, off-label, off-label usage, Premarin, Prempro, Pristiq, psych drugs, psych meds, psychotropic, side effects, vasomotor, venlafaxine, Wyeth
Back in January 2007, I’d mentioned that Wyeth was not only seeking to market Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) for depression but also for the use of vasomotor symptoms in menopausal women.
I just learned that Wyeth produces two major menopause drugs, Premarin and Prempro, that allegedly has produced hormones causing cancer in more than 5,000 women. This added up to a loss of 40 million users and $1 billion annually.
With Effexor going generic in 2 years and the introduction of Pristiq to the market, Wyeth hopes to lure some of those customers back and net an annual $2 billion. However, serious questions linger about Pristiq’s side effects in menopausal women.
Why did two women in the study group taking Pristiq have heart attacks
and three need procedures to repair clogged arteries compared with none
taking placebo? How can Wyeth assure long term safety when 604 of the
2,158 test subjects took Pristiq for only six months and 318 for a year
or more? And what about serious liver complications seen in the studies?
Martha Rosenberg, reporting on Pristiq’s use as a menopausal drug, culled comments from CafePharma’s message boards and found one thread rife with mixed comments on the new drug. From an Anonymous commenter:
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April 14, 2008 at 10:21 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Medicine/Meds, News)
Tags: Adverse Effects, akathisia, Christopher Pittman, CNN, drugs, FDA, grandparents, hearing, homicide, medications, meds, mental health, mental illness, murder, paroxetine, Patient Safety Information, Paxil, Pfizer, Pittman, post-marketing adverse events, psych drugs, psych meds, rage, sentence, sentencing, sertraline, side effects, Supreme Court, violence, zoloft
I’ve written about Christopher Pittman, now 19, who confessed to shooting and killing his grandparents when he was on psych meds at the age of 12. He appealed for a Supreme Court hearing but was denied, CNN reported today. He — and his defenders — appealed on the grounds that his 30-year sentence was “excessive for someone that age” and that the dosage of his antidepressants at the time (200 mg) “sent his mind spinning out of control.” Pittman was tried as an adult and, his lawyers argue, “no other inmate in the United States is serving so severe a sentence for a crime committed at such an early age.”
In previous posts here and here, I’ve questioned the link between Zoloft and violence/rage. Pittman, in 2001, had been switched to Zoloft a few days before the murder of his grandparents. However, it sounds like there had been some emotional problems in Pittman’s life that may have given prosecutors a solid case:
At the time of the crime, the boy had bounced around homes for years, experiencing a half dozen family splits and divorces after his mother had twice abandoned him as a child. She has not been in Pittman’s life for years.
Joe Pittman, the boy’s father, raised Christopher Pittman and his sister for much of their lives, but the relationship between father and son deteriorated. A state psychologist later testified this was a “young man who’d had difficulty with the adults in his life.”
On November 28, 2001, Pittman was sent home early for fighting in school and sent to bed by the grandparents. The boy claimed his “Pop-Pop” also beat him with a belt as punishment.
South Carolina prosecutors may easily have set Pittman up as a disturbed young man, which he very well may have been. But there are indications that this disturbance transcended his emotional state into his mental health:
After threatening to harm himself and suffering other emotional incidents, the boy was diagnosed as clinically depressed. His lawyers said Pittman was then given Paxil, a mild antidepressant no longer recommended for those under 18.
Just days before [shooting his grandparents], a doctor had begun prescribing Zoloft, another antidepressant. The family contends the abrupt substitution of drugs caused a bad chemical reaction, triggering violent outbursts.
At trial, a parade of psychiatrists offered conflicting testimony on whether the boy’s emotional problems excused his criminal behavior. Prosecutors called the Zoloft defense a “smokescreen.”
Juror Steven Platt later told CNN the crime appeared deliberate. “It always seemed like the defense was grasping at straws,” he said. “Just because you take prescription medicine doesn’t mean you can’t be held accountable for your actions.”
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March 10, 2008 at 9:30 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Suicide)
Tags: brain shivers, brain zaps, cold turkey, depressed, Depression, dizziness, drug, drugged, editorial, escitalopram, Furious Seasons, LA Times, Lexapro, listless, medication, meds, panic attacks, paroxetine, Paxil, Philip Dawdy, psych meds, quick fix, somnolence, Suicide, Summer Beretsky, withdrawal, withdrawal symptoms
Dawdy at Furious Seasons wrote a post on an editorial in the LA Times by Summer Beretsky’s experience with Paxil. After reading her editorial, I’m reminded that my own experience with one antidepressant wasn’t all that unique. Her drug was Paxil for panic attacks; mine was Lexapro for depression following a 3-month (on-and-off) stint with Paxil. I’m struck by the similarity of our experiences; not only did the same thing happened to me but I was also a communications major in college as well.
Paxil had one pretty undesirable effect on me: I started to lose interest in just about everything. I stopped initiating social activities (who needs that sort of thing?) and was no longer motivated to perform well academically.
My emotions had flat-lined: I hadn’t cried in months, nor had I proverbially jumped for joy. I felt — nothing.
I can still remember sleeping in bed at home on a weekday when I should have been at class. It was 2 in the afternoon, around the time my copy editing class was to begin. My boyfriend at the time (now my husband) lived in Kentucky while I attended college in New York. He planned to visit me that weekend but was getting fed up with my depression and listlessness. He called from work to tell me to get up and go to class. I mumbled on the phone, half-confused, and said no. He demanded, “Why not?” I said quite plainly, “Because I don’t care.” He said, “If you don’t get up and go to class, I won’t visit you this weekend.”
I replied, “I don’t care.”
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July 6, 2007 at 11:12 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Pharma, Suicide)
Tags: adolescents, adults, adverse effect, aggression, agitation, AHRP, akathisia, alcohol, anger, Antidepressants, behavior, big pharma, blog, Brynn Hartman, Children, Christopher Pittman, clinical trials, comments, confidence interval, David Healy, death, Depression, drugs, dyskinesia, Eli Lilly, Fluoxetine, GlaxoSmithKline, guide, homicide, hostile, hostility, hyperkinesis, information, irritability, kids, kill, lawsuits, major depressive disorder, MDD, medications, meds, murder, OCD, patient safety, patients, pediatrics, Pfizer, pharma companies, pharmaceuticals, Phil Harman, Pittman, placebo, placebos, Prozac, psych drugs, psychiatry, psychology, rage, restlessness, Salon.com, sertraline, side effects, SSRI, studies, suicidal risk, suicidality, Suicide, teens, violence, violent, volunteers, Web site, zoloft
[This post is quite lengthy so I suggest you grab a cup of coffee or tea and sit down and read it. The following is not for the faint of heart (or those with a lack of time).]
It’s been amazing to me that I’ve received numerous comments on Zoloft inducing rage. I’m humbled by having a Pittman supporter visit my site and post some comments from the ChristopherPittman.org forums. Read the following:
In my senior year in high school I was diagnosed as being severely depressed and put on medication. The first medication that I was on I took for 5 months and it made me really aggressive. My friends and family noticed the change and I told my doctor about it and she changed my meds. After that I was fine. I am normally a very passive person and will let just about anything fly. But the medication made me really aggravated and aggressive toward my friends and family and it seemed that I wasn’t overcoming my depression. I just got done watching the 48 hours investigation on the Discovery Times Channel and felt a connection with Chris. I felt that I had to write this to let you know that Chris is not the only one out there that had these side effects. I think there should be a study done to see how many people that take antidepressants have increased aggression. The problem is that the pharmaceutical industry has deep pockets and many lobbyists. I hope this helps in some way.
I remember the case when it happened.
At the time I thought, “Zoloft right”.
Let me tell you my physician put me on Zoloft and it took about three weeks for my to become psychotic and I’m a 50 year old woman.
I have three children and I don’t make a lot of money but please let me know if I can do anything for the Pittman boy.
The jury should have been placed on Zoloft before they made they decision. Unless you’ve experience it you simply cannot believe its’ effect.
I did a bit of quick reading/research into Zoloft triggering violence in people who otherwise would have never been violent and it seems that are a few stories out there to support the assertion. I found a few comments on depressionblog.com that mentioned a link between Zoloft and rage fits. A Salon.com article published a story antidepressants inducing rage in 1999. Apparently, Brynn Hartman, the wife of famous comedian Phil Hartman, killed herself and her husband while taking Zoloft. While close friends attribute the sudden behavior on the antidepressant, others attribute it to a combination of the medication with cocaine and alcohol in her system. (Zoloft does have a warning against alcohol use in conjunction with the drug.)
One interesting thing I learned from the article is that this kind of behavior is often labeled under the name akathisia on patient safety guides. Most – if not all – of the major antidepressants list akathisia as a side effect. Here’s the initial description of this condition from Wikipedia:
Akathisia, or acathisia, is an unpleasant subjective sensation of “inner” restlessness that manifests itself with an inability to sit still or remain motionless… Its most common cause is as a side effect of medications, mainly neuroleptic antipsychotics especially the phenothiazines (such as perphenazine and chlorpromazine), thioxanthenes (such as flupenthixol and zuclopenthixol) and butyrophenones (such as haloperidol (Haldol)), and rarely, antidepressants.
Akathisia may range in intensity from a mild sense of disquiet or anxiety (which may be easily overlooked) to a total inability to sit still, accompanied by overwhelming anxiety, malaise, and severe dysphoria (manifesting as an almost indescribable sense of terror and doom).
No real mention of extreme anger or irritability mentioned there. But if you read on…
The 2006 U.K. study by Healy, Herxheimer, and Menkes observed that akathisia is often miscoded in antidepressant clinical trials as “agitation, emotional lability, and hyperkinesis (overactivity)”. The study further points out that misdiagnosis of akathisia as simple motor restlessness occurs, but that this is more properly classed as dyskinesia. Healy, et. al., further show links between antidepressant-induced akathisia and violence, including suicide, as akathisia can “exacerbate psychopathology.” The study goes on to state that there is extensive clinical evidence correlating akathisia with SSRI use, showing that approximately ten times as many patients on SSRIs as those on placebos showed symptoms severe enough to drop out of a trial (5.0% compared to 0.5%).
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June 4, 2007 at 11:09 am (Adverse Effects, Anticonvulsants, Medicine/Meds, Personal)
Tags: cognitive abilities, cognitive functioning
Lately, my cognitive functioning has been absolute CRAP. My thoughts feel slow and dulled. I find myself constantly at a loss for words, especially verbally, which hinders my communication skills. I think this is not only affecting my job performance, but also my social skills on the job. This is probably why I’m making so many mistakes and forgetting things to do despite my endless lists. As a result, I’m worried about applying for a new job and feeling incredibly slow and dull like I do now. I wonder if it is the Lamictal or something else. I didn’t feel this way before I got bumped up to 200 mg, but the problem is quite apparent right now. I’ve become a whiz at solving sudoku puzzles (especially the hard ones!), but now, I’m lucky if I can solve medium. Easy takes me quite a while to finish now. If it is the Lamictal, my husband and I have discussed a trade-off: mixed episodes or the return of cognitive functioning? It’s like choosing between psychotic episodes or obesity. What would your choice be?
I apologize in advance for misspellings or sentences that don’t make sense. In some ways, I miss my pre-200 mg Lamictal self.
March 20, 2007 at 9:23 am (Adverse Effects, Blogs, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: 10% rule, Antidepressants, Bipolar Blast, Breggin, diet, Effexor, medication withdrawal, medications, meds, nutrition, Peter Breggin, psych, psych drugs, psych meds, sertraline, titration, venlafaxine, withdrawal, zoloft
Gianna, a reader of this site, has a great and informative blog, Bipolar Blast. In a recent post, she gives some tips for proper psych drug withdrawal. This is particularly helpful for those dealing with severe antidepressant withdrawal effects. For me, Effexor comes to mind. I also think about "Honey’s" experience with Zoloft. Not only does Gianna emphasize diet and nutrition as an important part of the process, but she also delves into proper titration. (Many people think that the diet and nutrition thing is obvious, but many people overlook that important piece of recovery.)
I understand that many people – especially in the psych world – think Peter Breggin’s a wack job, but he can have some good points. Gianna refers to Breggin’s 10% rule:
"Breggin suggests what has come to be known the 10% rule. Any given drug should not be reduced anymore than 10% at a time. Once a taper is complete the next taper should not exceed 10% of the new dose. Therefore, the milligram, then fraction of milligram amount decreases with each new taper. I’ve found that I have to sometimes go in even smaller amounts. As low as 5% and sometimes people go as small as 2.5%–for people on benzodiazepines it is not unusual to go in even smaller amounts. Cutting pills is not always enough. Sometimes liquid titration is necessary. This may involve dissolving the smallest dose pill in water, club soda or even alcohol, which can then be diluted with water, then using a syringe to cut down milliliters at a time. Medications also sometimes come in liquid form and can be gotten by prescription. It should be noted that some medications should not be dissolved. Especially time released medications. This would be extremely dangerous."
Gianna clearly knows what she’s talking about. Head on over to her site to read the rest of the post.
March 12, 2007 at 2:00 pm (Adverse Effects, Blogs, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: drug interaction, drugs, Effexor, Lamictal, lamotrigine, medication, meds, psych meds, soulful sepulcher, venlafaxine
soulful sepulcher has a post up on drug interactions. You can find nearly all meds and find out the interactions as drugdigest.org. I did a search for lamotrigine (Lamictal) and venlafaxine (Effexor), which included interactions with food and alcohol and there were none. (That was a relief.) I’d encourage anyone on medication to do this search to make sure that multiple psych drugs are not interfering with each other.
March 1, 2007 at 2:03 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Blogs, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: Blogs, Effexor, Effexor XR, graham's blog, side effects, venlafaxine, weblogs, withdrawal, withdrawal symptoms
I really should have posted on this a LONG time ago, but Graham’s Blog has done an unbelievable job of tracking his Effexor withdrawal symptoms. Something I learned today:
"| Night Sweats – I had this very bad, constantly wake up drenched in sweat,
literally soaked to the skin and to the mattress. But Have just realised I have
not had these severity of symptoms for some weeks, which is helping with the
consistency of sleep."
Ohh, so that’s why I wake up drenched in sweat in the middle of the night regardless of whether it’s warm or cold in my room. To quote Dawdy over at Furious Seasons, like Paxil, it truly is the "gift that keeps on giving." Hooray for long-lasting effects from psych meds! [sarcasm] Now, I’ve got this occasional twitch in my cheek. I took Paxil for about 3 months in 2003 and I still get eye twitches that I never had previous to the medication.
Check out Graham’s Blog and see the hell that Effexor can cause. Stephany at soulful sepulcher tracks some helpful tips for withdrawing from a psych med.
February 24, 2007 at 3:59 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: brain shivers, brain shocks, Effexor, Effexor XR, Fluoxetine, medication, meds, Prozac, psych meds, venlafaxine, withdrawal
I failed to update on my Effexor withdrawal because, well, you know why.
After three to four weeks, my Effexor symptoms – well, most of them anyway – have dissipated. The brain shocks were gone by early February. The vertigo as of now has completely resolved. (Although I’ll probably still have occasional instances where it may linger.) The dizziness also has lightened up. I can confidently say that I’m pretty much back-to-normal. All cases will differ, but for me, it took about five weeks total to have a complete recovery.
But don’t do headstands after Effexor – whoo, boy, can that throw you for a loop.
Also – it took about four weeks to get the drowsy effect of fluoxetine (Prozac) out of my system. January was an extremely rough month for meds, let me tell you.
February 6, 2007 at 3:22 pm (Adverse Effects, Quotes)
Tags: brain, brain shivers, brain shocks, graham's blog, quotation, quote
"The brain shivers are even scarier. If I straighten my head to fast or look up too quickly I get this out of body experience where it feels like I’m being electrocuted. It feels like my brain bounces back and forth. And for those few seconds I am unreachable."
I can totally relate. (quote courtesy Graham’s Blog)
January 29, 2007 at 4:18 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Blogs, Medicine/Meds, PTSD)
Tags: antidepressant, Blogs, celexa, citalopram, Holly Finch, medication, meds, psych meds, PTSD, withdrawal effects
Holly Finch’s blog “Am I Still Me?” is worth taking a look at. She was a survivor in the London bombing that occurred on July 7, 2005 and as a result, blogs about her daily life while suffering from PTSD.
She recently blogged about coming off citalopram (U.S. trademark name: Celexa) and is experiencing some awful withdrawal effects. This makes me glad that I skipped Celexa in the hospital before I met my doctor. He recommended Effexor instead.
Not that it makes a difference really. I just had the privilege of not having two withdrawal symptoms in succession.
January 23, 2007 at 12:00 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: Atarax, brain shivers, brain shocks, dizziness, Effexor, Effexor XR, Fluoxetine, grogginess, hydroxyzine, light-headed, meds, Prozac, psych meds, side effects, sleepiness, sleepy, somnolence, venlafaxine, vertigo, withdrawal, withdrawal symptoms
I previously wrote about how fluoxetine helped smooth out my withdrawal from venlafaxine. I’m doing much better and am able to function.
What’s the update then?
I’ve got lingering side effects from either the fluoxetine or the venlafaxine – I’m not sure which.
The lingering somnolence/grogginess for about a week or so can definitely be attributed to fluoxetine. I’d never struggled with somnolence on any med except when I first started Effexor in the hospital. Grogginess has never been a problem except for my antihistamine medication hydroxyzine.
The brain shocks still linger. They’re not as bad nor are they frequent. I can walk around, turn, spin – no problem. But if I’m in the middle of walking down the street and turn my neck slightly to see if a car is coming before I cross – *zap!* – brain shock. That’s all I get for the rest of my 15-minute walk. I’d say that’s pretty good (considering what I’d previously endured).
Dizziness, vertigo, and light-headedness: those are much more frequent. As I sit here and type, my entire field of vision can swirl clockwise and return to normal via counter-clockwise. It happens for about 3 seconds or less, but it’s long enough for me to notice and go, “Whoa.” (Who needs recreational drugs when you’ve got withdrawals from psych meds?) These side effects are not as frequent as they used to be with the direct venlafaxine withdrawal, but they can occur about 30 times or less throughout a 17-hour day (7 a.m.-12 a.m.) for me.
I’ve read that people can use fluoxetine to offset venlafaxine withdrawal symptoms with relatively uneventful side effects. Somnolence was not a fun side effect. Just a warning.
January 22, 2007 at 9:48 am (Adverse Effects, Antipsychotics, Medicine/Meds, News, Personal)
Tags: Dawdy, Effexor XR, escitalopram, Forest Pharmaceuticals, Furious Seasons, Lamictal, lamotrigine, Lexapro, paroxetine, Paxil, quell, quetiapine, Seroquel, Susie Q, venlafaxine, weight change, weight gain, weight managment
Furious Seasons has blogged about Seroquel (quetiapine) in the past and he recently posted on Seroquel abuse in an Ohio prison. Apparently, inmates have been snorting the atypical antipsychotic, also known in slang terms as “quell” or “Susie-Q.” Excerpt from Furious Seasons:
“Second, we all know that Seroquel is regularly handed out to bipolars and depressives and people with anxiety in order to address insomnia, as opposed to the kind of underlying psychosis/mania issues you’d expect it to be used for. PCPs hand it out this way and so do psychiatrists. What I have noticed among friends who’ve been given Seroquel for sleep issues is that they end up, over a few months time, needing more and more of the drug in order to get an effect. Or, put another way, people keep complaining of problems with sleep despite taking, say, 300 mgs. of Seroquel and their doctor will keep upping the dose to get the desired effect. As a result, I have seen people with very mild bipolar disorder wind up taking 800 mgs. of Seroquel a day–that’s roughly the same that a schizophrenic in a state hospital would get–and still they get no results, aside from putting on tons of weight. I have heard this from other readers of this blog as well.”
My aunt, who works in the psych wing of a hospital, warned me that she’s seen patients on Seroquel gain weight. A man I met at my Bipolar and Depression Alliance Group last night gained 60 lbs since taking Seroquel. I can’t image that everyone who takes Seroquel overeats to a point of obesity and leads a sedentary lifestyle. I have a random theory that Seroquel signficantly slows a person’s metabolism down to the point where it is difficult for a person to lose weight.
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January 22, 2007 at 9:32 am (Adverse Effects, Anticonvulsants, Bipolar Disorder, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Pharma, Suicide)
Tags: bipolar, Bipolar Disorder, Eli Lilly, epilepsy, gabapentin, Lyrica, marketing off-label, medication, Neurontin, neuropathic pain, non-FDA approval, OCD, off-label, off-label prescription, off-label uses, Olanzapine, Parke-Davis, Pfizer, postherpetic neuralgia, pregabalin, side effects, Suicide, Warner-Lambert, Zyprexa
My mother-in-law was telling me yesterday about how her hairdresser’s daughter has been diagnosed bipolar with OCD characteristics. She says her daughter’s on “Neo-something” – she couldn’t quite remember the name.
I racked my brain for a bipolar med name that began with “n.” Nothing really came to mind except for neurontin. I told myself, “No, that can’t be right. Isn’t that associated with VNS?”
Nope; Neurontin really is a medication associated with bipolar disorder. Neurontin’s generic name is gabapentin.
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January 18, 2007 at 9:36 am (Adverse Effects, Antipsychotics, Bipolar Disorder, Medicine/Meds, Pharma)
Tags: Andrew J. Cutler M.D., article, AstraZeneca, atypical antipsychotic, AZ, big pharma, bipolar, bipolar depression, Bipolar Disorder, bipolar pill, Clinical Psychiatry News, clinical trial, CORE Research, Dawdy, Furious Seasons, Lamictal, lamotrigine, lithium, Patient Safety Information, pharmaceutical research, psychopharmacology, quetiapine, Seroquel, side effects, weight gain, weight loss, wikipedia
[UPDATE: I had some funky issues with my table. It should be fixed now. Sorry about that.]
The first time I visited my psychiatrist for my initial evaluation, he gave me the option of choosing one of three medications: Seroquel, Lithium, or Lamictal. He handed me information about Seroquel and Lamictal. I did some research on both meds (lithium was out of the question because I don’t have time to get my blood checked constantly) and Lamictal sounded like a way better deal than Seroquel. I found mental health blog Furious Seasons (probably via The Trouble With Spikol) and read numerous posts on Seroquel’s adverse effects and all the good stuff AstraZeneca doesn’t tell anyone. From Philip Dawdy’s “Seroquel, The Bipolar Pill?” post, here’s what stood out to me:
“He told her that he didn’t think Seroquel worked benignly for patients and that the increased blood-sugar levels and cholesterol levels associated with its use were unacceptable to him. She broke out a recent paper which claimed that there were no metabolic syndrome problems with Seroquel.”
The post got me thinking. One of the materials I received from my psychiatrist was an article on how Seroquel seems to help the depressive part of bipolar disorder. He had a stack of these articles. My guess is not that he’s an overzealous reader of various newspapers but received the glowing article from – you got it! – a pharma rep. The article was taken from the August 2005 issue of Clinical Psychiatry News. (NOTE: I received the article in November 2006.)
Clinical Psychiatry News’ publication goals:
“Clinical Psychiatry News is an independent newspaper that provides the practicing psychiatrist with timely and relevant news and commentary about clinical developments in the field and about the impact of health care policy on the specialty and the physician’s practice.”
Good thing they didn’t say objectively.
I don’t know much about ClinPsych’s reputation and whether they are generally a good paper that reports things objectively. However, the article, “Atypical Quetiapine Appears Effective for Bipolar Depression,” reads like a press release. I’m not happy about receiving (practically) PR material from my doctor when trying to make an unbiased decision.
The article’s lede:
“The atypical antipsychotic quetiapine led to significantly greater reductions in bipolar depression than did placebo within the first week of treatment and throughout an 8-week randomized, controlled study of 511 patients, Andrew J. Cutler, M.D., said.”
Dr. Cutler? Who IS Dr. Cutler? No research necessary; look no further than the article itself:
“The differences between the placebo group and each quetiapine group were significant at each weekly assessment, said Dr. Cutler of the University of South Florida, Tampa. He is a speaker and consultant for, and has received research grants from, the company that makes quetiapine: AstraZeneca.”
At least they disclosed his financial affiliations.
It is also worth noting that Dr. Cutler also founded a clinical research company, CORE Research, which runs many of the clinical trials that he’s involved in. CORE Research’s background details:
“CORE Research, Inc. is a private research company with three offices in the Central Florida area. CORE specializes in pharmaceutical research and psychopharmacology for mental illnesses such as Bipolar Disorder, Depression, Anxiety, Schizophrenia, Attention Deficit Disorder, and Insomnia.”
Private + Pharmaceutical research + Psychopharmacology = Funding from Big Pharma Companies
I sound like I’m touting some grand conspiracy theory. (OK, maybe I am.) CORE’s background bio makes the company sound objective and unaffiliated, which isn’t the case. If Dr. Cutler has “received research grants from” not only AstraZeneca, but other companies, it’s in his best interest to make sure that their pharmaceutical products turn out OK. Namely in the interest of AZ – remember: he’s a consultant for them.
How can I expect to make a decision about which medication to take (remember it’s between Lamictal and Seroquel now) based on promotional materials from pharm companies and – oh – an article touting the benefits of Seroquel with quotes only from the study’s lead author who is paid to say good things about the company’s products?
Then how did I decide on Lamictal over Seroquel? Wikipedia‘s outline of each medication’s side effects, of course, in addition to other materials. (Don’t EVER overlook the Patient Safety Information of any medication. Unless you’re reading about the molecular structure – ignore that.)
|Lamictal (lamotrigine) side effects
||Seroquel (quetiapine) side effects
|Major weight loss
||Memory problems (i.e. anterograde amnesia)
||Abnormal liver tests
|Lack of coordination
||Substantial weight gain
||Stuffy nose feeling
|Rash (Stevens-Johnson syndrome) [uncommon in adults]
||Neuroleptic malignant syndrome [rare]
|Binds to melanin-containing tissues (i.e. iris of the eye)
||Tardive dyskinesia [rare]
Not that Lamictal’s side effects looked like a walk in the park, but considering that I’d already had awful trouble with weight gain on Paxil and Lexapro – nearly 50 lbs. – Seroquel was a serious no-go on my part. That and I don’t mind major weight loss from Lamictal. (Although I have been told Lamictal has no effect on weight.) Below is a copy of the article I received from my psychiatrist or you can just go and read the archived full text at Clinical Psychiatry News.
January 14, 2007 at 10:26 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: active drug substance, Atarax, brain shivers, brain shocks, dizziness, dosage, electric shocks, Fluoxetine, hydroxyzine, light-headedness, Prozac, quetiapine, Seroquel, side effects, somnolence, vertigo, withdrawal, withdrawal effects
Okay, the brain shivers are gone. Completely. I still get some vertigo and light-headedness but it happens maybe three times a day max. So fluoxetine has eliminated some of the effects.
I wasn’t prepared for fluoxetine’s side effects, however. And boy, it’s got some kickers.
Since I was on an incredibly low dosage (10-20 mg), there weren’t many side effects.
But boy, is somnolence kicking my butt.
After becoming used to waking up before I’m supposed to, now I’m having the opposite problem: I can’t get up at all. I need my husband to drag me out of bed. And since he’s so nice, he doesn’t do that either.
Argh. As of Friday night, I’ve stopped taking fluoxetine so I’m praying to God that these side effects will go away. I hate somnolence. I’ve had that issue with hydroxyzine (Atarax) and it’s the same reason that I refuse to take quetiapine (Seroquel). I’m getting sleepy right now. If I can get up before noon, I’ll be so freakin’ lucky.
The metabolism aspect of fluoxetine doesn’t make me jump for joy. According to my favorite “reputable” site, wikipedia:
“Fluoxetine is metabolised to norfluoxetine, and it may take up to 1 to 2 months for the active drug substance to disappear from the body.”
I don’t know if I can tolerate somnolence for 1-2 months. I hope the side effects from this is out of my system by the end of the week.
Come to think of it: somnolence vs. brain shivers?
I’ll take somnolence ANY DAY.
January 11, 2007 at 10:23 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: brain shivers, Dawdy, Dr. Ivan, Effexor, effexor withdrawal, Fluoxetine, Furious Seasons, Prozac, venlafaxine, withdrawal
Great news: I upped my dosage took 20 mg of fluoxetine last night and the Effexor brain shivers have completely worn off. My cognitive functioning has completely returned and I’m no longer afraid of passing out when walking or turning to talk to someone. I’ll probably take another 20 mg tonight and call it a day for fluoxetine. (Thank you Dr. Ivan!)
So it’s true: If you’re experiencing Effexor withdrawal, ask your doctor or psychiatrist (whomever you’re seeing for mental illness) for 20 mg of fluoxetine and take it for about 2-3 days. This may not work for everyone (especially those who may be treatment-resistant) but I’m confident it can work for the vast majority of sufferers. I’ll tell you later if I have a suicidal relapse; I’ll be on the alert for the next two weeks. That’s how long it took me to have a relapse when I quit Lexapro cold turkey.
Many thanks to Furious Seasons for the shout-out.
UPDATE: An old post from a blog detailing an Effexor withdrawal experience. I was on Effexor for about 3 months and the withdrawal effects were essentially the same.
January 9, 2007 at 3:32 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Personal)
Tags: about.com, bipolar, Bipolar Disorder, brain, brain shivers, brain shocks, Depression, discontinuation, dizziness, Effexor, Effexor XR, electric shocks, electrick shock sensations, Fluoxetine, Lamictal, lamotrigine, light-headedness, mania, manic, manic-depressive, medication, meds, paroxetine, Paxil, Prozac, psych meds, psychiatrist, quetiapine, Schimelpfening, sensory disturbances, Seroquel, side effects, symptoms, taper off, venlafaxine, vertigo, weird sensation, withdrawal, withdrawal symptoms
Work has got me busy, folks, so posts may drop significantly in the next coming days/months. Possibly through April or May. (I’ll probably have one of those work days when I end up doing more blogging than working. It happens every now and then.) But don’t be surprised if Saturday quotes, Wednesday puppies, and Sunday stats are what pops up each week. I’ve got many of those backlogged through April. I’ll try to backlog some other posts on bipolar disorder and depression for the coming weeks and quickly blog on anything that’s timely.
In the meantime, I had to take a sick day today. It’s my third day off of the Effexor and I’m having some weird side effects (see Case 1: Standard Dose under the link). Whenever I turn or move too quickly (consider your “natural” body turn), I “kind of” see stars and the whole world slightly spins beyond my field of vision for about 3 seconds before coming back into focus. After doing some light research on the side effects of venlafaxine (Effexor’s generic name), I’ve found out that side effects can incude vertigo, dizziness, light-headedness (associated with dizziness), and something called “brain shivers,” which are a form of electric shock sensations. You know that feeling when you get an electric shock from somebody? Yeah, imagine feeling that throughout your whole body. Precisely; not a good feeling. Nancy Schimelpfening, blogger for depression.about.com, found a newsgroup posting on the brain shiver effect, mainly associated with venlafaxine:
It happens to me if I turn my head quickly, or if I stop suddenly, or in general with sudden motion. They’re worse if I’m nervous.
i’ve seen them described as feeling as though your brain keeps going when you turn your head. that doesn’t seem quite adequate to me. it’s more like this:
you turn your head (or your whole body — this happens to me if i whirl around too quickly as i’m taking the stairs. what. doesn’t everyone whirl on the stairs…?), but your brain *stays put* for a micro second, then tries to catch up but only in a stuttering, stopstart motion, accompanied by a staccato ‘zzt zzt zzt’ with each stop. the ‘zzt’ you can feel in your head, an electric sort of vertigo, and it often reverberates in your hands and fingers. some folks feel it in their toes; i haven’t yet.
sometimes your brain overshoots and comes strobing back, then overshoots again.. this all unfolds in just a second or two.
these days i endeavor to go around corners all smooth slow and steadylike. helps to reduce the number of brain shivers per day
Yeah, that’s me. It’s hard to explain to someone who’s never felt it. I got this feeling after not taking Paxil for three days too. The effects eventually wore off, but it was such a weird feeling.
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December 29, 2006 at 8:19 am (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Blogs, Medicine/Meds)
Tags: Antidepressants, Dawdy, Furious Seasons, Lexapro, medication, meds, Paxil, psych meds, side effects, uncomfortably numb, withdrawal
Thanks to Philip Dawdy at Furious Seasons, he wrote about the Uncomfortably Numb blog. The blog focuses mainly on the side effects (and side effect withdrawals) of Paxil. Having been on Paxil (CR), I can identify. I was fortunate enough to ask my doctor for a switch after three months, but I still have this occasional eye-twitch that lasts for days that has stayed with me since taking Paxil back in February 2004. If I didn’t take Paxil for three days, my nerves just went horrible: I felt shaky and my entire life seemed fluid – it was like constantly walking in a pool of water. Nothing seemed real; everything was a dream. But it wasn’t. Everything was too hard, too much effort, too much anything. I couldn’t stand it. I quit Paxil “cold turkey” (again, don’t do this, kids) and felt worse before I could feel better. I went from Paxil to Lexapro and… yeah, felt worse again.
Lesson? Primary care physicians should NOT give antidepressants to depressed people with undiagnosed bipolar disorder.
December 6, 2006 at 5:34 pm (Adverse Effects, Antidepressants, Books, Depression, Medicine/Meds, Mental Health/Illness, Personal)
Tags: Antidepressants, Breggin, Cohen, Effexor, Effexor XR, lithium, medication, meds, mental health, mental illness, psych hospital, psychiatric, psychiatrist, psychiatry, side effects, Your Drug May Be Your Problem
Originally written October 16, 2006 (Updated edits in bold red)
“So sad / so sad / sometimes she feels so sad” ~ Paul McCartney, “Another Day”
I’m finishing up my third full day in the psych hospital and I’m accomplishing things totally unrelated to my “treatment.”
I’ve gotten through 100 pages of Mark Twain’s The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. It’s an interesting book — never read it before – and reading about Tom’s mischevous ways takes me away from the dreariness of a psych hospital. I have a mind to read Huck Finn afterward.
I’m reading several books at once, however. (I’ve got ADD when it comes to books; sometimes I finish them, sometimes I don’t.) I’m finally reading my Bible again and trying to plow through Your Drug May Be Your Problem. It’s an interesting book but most of it is alarming. The authors, Breggin and Cohen, argue against psychiatric drugs completely. The books raises some awareness about the use of psychiatric drugs but I think the authors are mostly crying “Fire!” about an unattended candle. The only time I somewhat took them seriously was their discussion about lithium. I’ve already heard — and now seen — its effects. I think lithium is a drug that really shouldn’t be used any more. Are the therapeutic effects of lithium really worth risking a patient to possible toxic levels?
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